Tuesday, January 04, 2011

Oil, schmoil: Another kind of spill

If I ever had any crazy notion that our microwave was pareve, finding the turntable coated with a massive melted-cheese spill from baked ziti disabused me of the delusion.


Anonymous jdub said...

so kasher it. Clean the mess up, then take a microwave safe cup, fill it to the top with water, and boil it in the microwave until boiling. Boom, kashered and parve again.

Thu Jan 06, 09:06:00 AM 2011  
Blogger Shira Salamone said...

Will do, if necessary. Actually, we usually do our parve and meat/fleishig/b'sari cooking on the stovetop, in the oven, and in the broiler, and only rarely kasher the microwave for parve or fleishig use, because most of the microwave-proof cookware that we have is either milshig/dairy or fleishig/meat, and we can't be bothered getting new cookware.

Thu Jan 06, 12:46:00 PM 2011  
Anonymous rivkayael said...

Also: wait 24h before kashering.

Was the cheese actually hot when it hit the turnable? If it was a spill and it wasn't hot, it should be fine. (ie not milchigifying the turnable)

Thu Jan 06, 03:53:00 PM 2011  
Blogger Shira Salamone said...

RivkaYael, thanks for the 24-hour-wait reminder. I haven't quite mastered that part of kashering.

I'm pretty sure that the spill took place as the baked ziti was heating up, so I think it's a good bet that the cheese was hot. :( If we wait 24 hours, then kasher, can we still switch from one class of food to another (e.g. milchig to fleishig), and/or can we use the turntable with a paper towel on it and/or by double-wrapping the food?

Thu Jan 06, 05:04:00 PM 2011  
Anonymous rivkayael said...

The reason why I asked was that I have exploded fleishig cholent in the microwave before--I was right there, so I touched the turnable and the walls and surprisingly they were not hot. It's the mechanics of fluid expansion caused by microwaving that does this, ask your son :).

Here's what my husband and I do: we place milchig and fleishig keilim on a piece of paper/plastic to guard against spills actually cooking on the turnable. We cover actual milchigs/fleishigs (we don't double wrap), but do not cover parve things in milchig/fleshig keilim. This is because we are trying to prevent actual milchig/fleishig steam or splashes from being absorbed into the microwave.

As for the turnable, if you suspect that hot ziti was cooked on it, (I) would kasher it by irui, not by steaming it. It's this principle called "kibolo kach polto"--how taste is absorbed, it's also discharged. Some might even suggest that if there were actual cooking on the turnable, it cannot be kashered. However you can just cover the bases of all your keilim with plastic wrap so that it doesn't come in contact with the turnable.

You should check with your LOR (because obviously, I'm not a rabbi).

Thu Jan 06, 09:58:00 PM 2011  
Anonymous rivkayael said...

irui: boiling water and pouring it onto a surface. You'd also kasher a sink like that. Email me for particulars on sinks--the rema and shulchan aruch are tons more lenient that common practice.

Thu Jan 06, 09:59:00 PM 2011  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dontcha hate it when you come up on something they didn't cover in the Talmud or Shulchan Aruch? ;-)

Thu Jan 06, 10:08:00 PM 2011  
Blogger Shira Salamone said...

RivkaYael, thanks for the instructions. I wouldn't have thought to pour boiling water on the turntable. In the future, we'll have to remember to cover it with plastic wrap.

Techlet, thanks for the grin. :)

Thu Jan 06, 10:17:00 PM 2011  

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